Star Trek – The Motion Picture

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 03/16/2020 at 23:07 • Filed to: None

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While looking for something to watch tonight, I landed on this. I saw it in the theaters when it came out in 1979, and I remember thinking it was slow and boring, which, honestly, it is . This may be the first time I’ve watched it since, but my opinion of it has changed. For one thing, it’s an honest to goodness science fiction story. Spaceships and lasers do not science fiction make. Star Wars is not science fiction. It’s a fantasy hero movie set in space. Despite its pacing, the premise of ST- TMP is solid, the effects are pretty good for its day, and Jerry Goldsmith’s score is absolutely fantastic. I’m enjoying it. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:09

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Might give it a look.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:12

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I’ll have to try watching it again. The first time I saw it I thought the same thing - some of the scenes were really slow.

I've got the boxed set. I'll have to give it another watch.

Textured Soy Protein > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:13

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One possible reason for your improved opinion of it is that the most commonly circulated version nowadays is the much better director’s cut .

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 23:18

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It’s on Hulu.

ttyymmnn > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/16/2020 at 23:19

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It hasn’t gotten any faster. The scene at the beginning when Kirk and Scotty were flying around the new Enterprise was seemingly endless. But I think true science fiction makes you think, it doesn’t always excite. 

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:20

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v ger                                                            A bit slow but it’s good

ttyymmnn > Textured Soy Protein 03/16/2020 at 23:20

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I read an article about it this evening about how they were making edits up until the last second. It would be interesting to compare the two. I assume that the one on Hulu is the new cut.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:27

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That’s the exact scene I was thinking of. :P

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:31

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That scene is long because it’s the overture — you of all people should know that! Good thing the music is pretty decent.

I like STTMP just fine, though I still hold TWOK as my favorite which is very unlikely to be toppled. 

Deal Killer - Powered by Focus > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:51

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Really, the best part of the whole movie is the opening scene with the Klingons attacking V-Ger.

Chariotoflove > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 23:52

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The moment when Scotty turns the pod and we see her for the first time in ten years, reborn, when we all thought she was lost forever...every time it gets me. It sounds silly, and I don’t care. 

ttyymmnn > Deal Killer - Powered by Focus 03/16/2020 at 23:57

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I appreciate and enjoyed the practical effects with actual lighting. 

ttyymmnn > Chariotoflove 03/16/2020 at 23:59

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They really liked this shot of Kirk and Scotty in the shuttle. They used it a bunch .

JeepJeremy > ttyymmnn 03/17/2020 at 00:10

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Star Trek TMP is absolutely epic beyond belief

It’s a masterpiece of cinema! The thematic counterbalance of humanity’s ability to feel and conceive with the mentality that the universe itself can be so easily conceptualized while still totally unknown is critical to everyone’s life.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 03/17/2020 at 00:29

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Also on Amazon prime. And you’re right about the score.

Star wars meets Planet of the apes. And the costumes and the makeup are terrible. Movies  from the same era.

jimz > ttyymmnn 03/17/2020 at 03:12

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we used to remark how much the “Blaster beam” (the instrument used to make the “sproingy” effects whenever V’ger was involved) sounded like the springs to our drop-down attic door. 

haveacarortwoorthree2 > JeepJeremy 03/17/2020 at 07:59

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I don’t understand any of this. lol

ttyymmnn > jimz 03/17/2020 at 08:41

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I will now never unheard that. It’s a great sound, though.

user314 > ttyymmnn 03/17/2020 at 09:52

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Dunno if you’re familiar with Riff Trax (made by three of the guys from MST3K), but they also host trax made by fans. There’s one by Ronin Fox for TMP, and it is GOLD. During the Spacedock sequence, one of them says, as the director: “Shoot it from every conceivable angle, then conceive of more  angles!”. 

user314 > Textured Soy Protein 03/17/2020 at 09:55

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Different stokes and all that, but I love  the longer cut, before they “remastered” the effects, cut scenes and changed dialog. I went out of my way to convert my VHS copy to digital so I can keep watching it. 

user314 > ttyymmnn 03/17/2020 at 10:00

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I love TMP. I love the 30 minutes of shots of the Big E in Spacedock, love the endless vistas of the V’Ger Cloud, love Bones “Pimp Daddy” McCoy (shoulda kept the beard!). It’s a throwback to movies like   2001 , and it puts all the TNG and reboot movies to shame.

ttyymmnn > user314 03/17/2020 at 10:00

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That sums it up pretty well.

“Oh, and have Scotty keep looking at Kirk and smiling...”

user314 > Chariotoflove 03/17/2020 at 10:29

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Having seen TMP before TOS firmly fixed the former’s design aesthetic in my mind as the Right One. The FASA designs too, love them.

Textured Soy Protein > user314 03/17/2020 at 11:06

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I actually like the original version and always felt it was underrated. The more cerebral nature of the story fits with Star Trek just fine. It’s got arguably the best production values of all the TOS movies if only because it had by far the biggest budget. Some of the sets like the recreation deck where Kirk addresses the crew are bigger and nicer than anything else in the TOS or TNG movies. I don’t even really know what all is different with the director’s cut but I still like it regardless of version.

user314 > Textured Soy Protein 03/17/2020 at 11:36

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Some of the effects were redone, like the backgrounds on Vulcan, some scenes were trimmed (the scene you mentioned where Kirk addresses the crew, bunch of cloud shots), and some dialog was changed (specifically line from the Epislon One station commander that V’Ger is 18 A.U. in diameter is altered so he says 8 instead). Little changes all, but they annoy me. 

Chariotoflove > user314 03/17/2020 at 11:48

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For a long time I felt the original series design was the best. I had done models as a kid and everything. But over time I’ve come to thing the redesign is a bit more graceful, as if it’s the final evolution of that design.